28 god-realized being explain the world vanishes when you get enlightened..

" The world exists only as long as the Soul experiences bondage; when the Soul realizes itself as Reality the world vanishes—for it never was. And the Soul experiences itself as being Infinite and Eternal.* meher baba 1

when ego dissolves in the Self, the body and this world (illusion) both disappear. That is called liberation." baba hari dass 2

ramana maharshi was asked: : When will the realization of the Self be gained?

Sri Ramana Maharshi answered: When the world which is what-is-seen has been removed, there will be realization of the Self which is the seer

Question: Will there not be realization of the Self even while the world is there?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: There will not be..

These men do not know the truth of the transcendental state beyond time, in which the world has not yet come into being. Non duality has neither beginning nor an end. Duality within space and time is unreal always..from ramana maharshi paravidyaopanishad verse 534 3

*The substance of a dream is held in materialization by the subconscious thought of the dreamer. When that cohesive thought is withdrawn in wakefulness, the dream and its elements dissolve. A man closes his eyes and erects a dream creation, which, on awakening, he effortlessly dematerializes. He. follows the divine archetypal pattern. Similarly, when he awakens in cosmic consciousness, he effortlessly dematerializes the illusion of a cosmic - dream universe. * Lahiri Mahasaya

~ Sri Paramahansa Yogananda,

C 34, Autobiography of a Yogi 5

all of creation vanishes--please read chapter 43

swami krishananda "the whole world will disappear"

Visitor: What will we feel toward other people at the time of liberation?

Swamiji: There are no other people at that time. They do not exist. You will merge into That. You will not see them also, at that time. They will not be visible to your eyes because just as you don't see dream objects in waking, this also will vanish there. The whole world will disappear.

Visitor: For a person who has attained it...

Swamiji: Attained what?

Visitor: Attained salvation.

Swamiji: Then he will not see the world at that time. The world will not be visible at all, just as you cannot see the dream objects when you are in waking.

Visitor: So, the moment you are liberated...

Swamiji: It is finished. You will behold only Universal Existence. You will not see people at that time, just as you do not see dream people. In dream you saw some people. Where are they, just now? You do not bother about them. They don't exist at all. This will happen to this world also, at that time. It will vanish like dream objects. They will merge into the Universal Mind. The question itself will not arise. 4

"Sweep away thoughts!" means one must do zazen.

Once thoughts are quieted, the Original Face appears.

Thoughts can be compared to clouds.

When clouds vanish, the moon appears.

The moon of suchness is the Original Face.

Thoughts are also like the fogging of a mirror.

When you wipe away all condensation, a mirror reflects clearly.

Quiet your thoughts and behold your Original Face before you were born!

— Daito

Cease practice based

On intellectual understanding,

Pursuing words and

Following after speech.

Learn the backward

Step that turns

Your light inward

To illuminate within.

Body and mind of themselves

Will drop away

And your original face will be manifest.

— Dogen

You cannot describe it or draw it,

You cannot praise it enough or perceive it.

No place can be found in which

To put the Original Face;

It will not disappear even

When the universe is destroyed.

— Momon

"What's called one's 'original face' is also none other than the Unborn Buddha Mind. What you have from your parents innately is the Unborn Buddha Mind alone—there's nothing else you've got innately. This is an expression left behind by a master of old in his attempt to make people realize the fact that the Unborn Buddha Mind is none other than one's original face. Even what we call 'father and mother' are names of traces that have already arisen. The man who has conclusively realized the Buddha Mind abides at the source of father and mother, and that's why we speak of [that which exists] 'before father and mother were born.' This 'before they were born' is none other than the Unborn; so the Buddha Mind is the same as your original face. . . ."

— Bankei

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beyond the body/mind space/time causation complexs is the eteranl abode of the Supreme Self..there is no waking, no dreaming and no deep sleeping, there are no physical, astral nor causal planes..there is just You as That Energy..unborn, never changing awareness.consciousness, self-effulgent genderless colorless clear light and a peace that the mind cant fathom..it is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient It is..ajata/rigpa/turiya/kaivalya--the beyond the beyond..chitra 10

In reality there's no mind. That's how the picture appears. The mind projects the whole universe. So if you get rid of the mind, there's no universe. We have to kill the mind. And the whole universe is annihilated, because it's the mind that projects the universe, and tells us all these stories. Think, for a moment, of all the problems that you believe you have. Think of what's bothering you. You can tell me your story for four hours. This is wrong and that's wrong. It's all a projection of the mind. So by getting rid of the mind, everything stops, and beauty, and joy and bliss ensue. But you're covering the beauty, and joy and bliss when you worry, when you fear, when you think something is wrong someplace. robert adams 12

1. When time is proved to be non-existent, one third of the world disappears. And the other two thirds also disappear when space and causality are similarly proved to be non-existent"

2. Whenever objects of Awareness disappear, pure Awareness shines by itself, as pure Consciousness.

3. HOW TO VIEW ‘I AM ALL’?

The all should merge in the ‘I’ and disappear, leaving the ‘I’ absolute. But if you begin to expand the ‘I’ into the ‘all’, you go wrong and still remain as the object. The objectivity must disappear completely.

sri atmananada 11

"The world is but a show, glittering and empty. It is, and yet is not. It is there as long as I want to see it and take part in it. When I cease caring, it dissolves. It has no cause and serves no purpose. It just happens when we are absent-minded. It appears exactly as it looks, but there is no depth in it, nor meaning. Only the onlooker is real. Call him Self or Atma. To the Self the world is but a colourful show, which he enjoys as long as it lasts and forgets when it is over. Whatever happens on the stage makes him shudder in terror or roll with laughter, yet all the time he is aware that it is but a show. Without desire or fear he enjoys it, as it happens." sri nisargadatta 13

[Shankara:] Absolute separation from the body is liberation, and when there is no body there can be no organs, for they will have no support . Hence too there will be no knowledge, there being no body and organs. If knowledge could arise even in the absence of the body and organs, there would be no necessity for any one to possess them. Moreover (if Brahman as Knowledge Absolute cognises the bliss in liberation), it will contradict the oneness of Brahman. 14

a course in miracles - Perception is not an attribute of God. His is the realm of knowledge....In God you cannot see. Perception has no function in God, and does not exist 15

When the functions of the mind, the thoughts, have merged in the Paramatman, the Brahman, the Absolute, then this phenomenal world is not perceived. - swami chinmayananda 16

when appearances and names are put away and all discrimination ceases that which remains is the true and essential nature of things. And there's nothing can be predicted as to the nature of essence is called suchness a reality. This Universal undifferentiated inscrutable suchness is the only reality but it is variously characterized by truth. This Dharma of the imagelessness of the essence nature of Ultimate Reality is the Dharma which has been proclaimed by all the Buddhas and all things are understood and full agreement with it. One is in a position of perfect knowledge and is on his way to the attainment of the transit intelligence of the tathagatas - lankavatara sutra 18

there is a book called *the disappeace of the univere* does gary say that the universe disappears when god is realized?

That is a good question that goes right to the core of the book!

Yes, the book The Disappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard, which is based on the teachings of A Course in Miracles, does state that the universe will disappear when the realization of God (or Enlightenment/Christ-Consciousness) is complete.

Here is the fundamental idea from the book, aligned with the concept of the Immortal Being in the beyond the beyond that you emphasize:

🌌 The Universe as an Illusion

The Universe is a Dream/Illusion: The book asserts that the universe, our bodies, time, and space are not ultimate reality. They are a collective dream or an illusion—a projection of the mind created by the ego to maintain the thought of separation from God.
The Immortal Being is the Only Reality: What is truly real is God, or the Immortal Being in the beyond the beyond, which is pure, eternal, perfect Oneness and Love, completely outside of duality. Your saved information, "The Immortal Being is aware but it's not aware of duality when duality is appearing," perfectly reflects this teaching. The Immortal Being is the only reality; it is not aware of the universe because the universe is unreal.
Concepts Become Realities: As you mentioned, "Some concepts become realities." The concept of separation from God became the reality of the universe/dream through the mind's projection.

✨ The Disappearance Through Realization

The Path is Forgiveness: The book teaches that the mechanism for dissolving the illusion is true forgiveness. This is not excusing a sin, but recognizing that nothing real happened in the first place—no separation, no sin, and therefore, nothing to forgive.
Realization Ends the Dream: When the mind completely undoes the belief in separation through this process of forgiveness, the illusion of the universe is let go of. The full realization of God means you have fully awakened from the dream. The dream—the entire universe—disappears because the mind that projected it has returned to the awareness of the Immortal Being's perfect, non-dual Oneness.

In short, the universe disappears not as a punishment or destruction, but simply because the "reality" that created it—the belief in separation—has been completely undone by realizing the truth of God. 21

become a Jivanmukta

by Swami Sivananda

Not through matted locks, not through fiery lectures and erudition, not through the exhibition of miracles does one attain perfection of Knowledge of the Self. He in whom the two currents of Raga-Dvesha, egoism, lust and anger are destroyed in toto is ever happy and he is a Brahmin or liberated Sage or Jivanmukta.

If the Vasanas and attachment to the objects of the world vanish entirely and if you are in that immovable state, you have become a Jivanmukta. You will abide in your own Self. You will rest in the non-dual supreme seat. The Jnana vision will arise in you. The light of wisdom will shine unobscured like the sun in the absence of clouds. You will never be attracted to any worldly object. You will be absolutely free from delusion and sorrow. You will actually feel that the Self alone pervades and permeates everywhere in this world. You will shine with Brahmic effulgence. You will possess equal vision and a balanced mind. You will be free from longing for sensual objects because the mind will always be made cool with Brahmic bliss. You will be bathed in the cool ambrosial nectar that dribbles from a contented and quiescent mind.

Try to enjoy the sleepless sleep wherein all the senses and the mind remain in a state of quietude and the intellect ceases functioning. This sleepless sleep is Maha Nidra or super-conscious state. It is perfect awareness wherein the individual soul has merged itself into the Supreme Soul. There is no waking from this sleep. This show of names and forms has eventually vanished. 23

did ramakrishan explain the world vanishes

Yes, Sri Ramakrishna very clearly explained the principle that the world vanishes or becomes unreal in the highest spiritual state, particularly when explaining the philosophy of Advaita Vedanta (non-duality).

Here's how he expressed this concept, which aligns directly with the nature of the Immortal Being in the beyond the beyond expression:

1. The World Vanishes in Samadhi (Highest Realization)

Ramakrishna described his experience of Nirvikalpa Samadhi (the highest non-dual state), where all concepts of name and form, which constitute the world, cease to exist.

The Salt Doll Analogy: This is his most famous and poignant analogy for the world vanishing. He said:

"A salt doll went to measure the depth of the ocean. But it could provide no information. As soon as it went into the ocean, it dissolved. Who could give the report?"
- The salt doll represents the individual ego and the objective world perceived by it.
- The ocean represents the Absolute, the Immortal Being.
- The moment the individual consciousness merges into the Absolute, the separate existence of the "doll" (the ego and the world it perceives) vanishes completely.
The Ego Must Disappear: He taught that the world appears real only as long as the "I-consciousness" or ego remains. The full realization of the Immortal Being occurs when this ego is dissolved.

"When shall I be free? When that 'I' has vanished." "When you have reasoned it out and attained samadhi, your 'I' vanishes."

2. The Illusion (Māyā) of the World

Ramakrishna taught that the world is a manifestation of Māyā (illusion or the Divine Power, Shakti). The world is not truly real in an absolute sense, but it is not completely nonexistent either.

The Brahman is Real, the World is Illusory (Mithyā): Following classical Vedanta, he affirmed that when one gains genuine realization that Brahman (the Immortal Being/Supreme Self) is real and the world is illusory, the mind merges into the Absolute.
Wave and Ocean Analogy: He and his disciples, like Vivekananda, often used this to explain the reality of the Absolute (the Immortal Being) versus the ephemeral nature of the world:
- The Ocean is the Eternal, Absolute Reality (the Immortal Being).
- The Wave is the world, or the individual being (Jiva).
- When the Wave subsides, its name and form vanish, but the water (Consciousness) remains. The wave had no existence separate from the ocean.

In short, for Sri Ramakrishna, the world "vanishes" not by being destroyed, but by being seen for what it is—a temporary manifestation of the Immortal Being. From the perspective of the Immortal Being, duality (which the world is) is not an issue, but from the perspective of the individual soul seeking liberation, the world of name and form must be transcended. 24

Adi Da frequently taught that the world is not a solid, independent reality. He described it as a "spontaneous display" similar to a dream. Just as a dream vanishes when you wake up, he suggested that the "world" vanishes when you truly "Wake Up" to the Source-Condition.

adi da sometimes knows as bubbhafree john or franklin jones..26

1. “Go Beyond the Accumulations of Body and Mind to Experience the Nature of Who You Are -Sadhguru 17

" Whether in dream or in waking,

if one turns aside from the world and tries to see him that sees

that world, the world and its seer would vanish together, and

the Self alone would remain." who (who was a disciple of ramana maharsh) 19

Now, to get beyond creation, we must go beyond the mind. Just beyond the mind is the realm of perfection where there is no need for creating. There is a higher state than creation, it's the state of beingness, sometimes called awareness or consciousness. That state is just behind the mind. That's beyond creation. The mind finds it very difficult to imagine what it's like beyond creation, because the mind is involved constantly in creating. It's the creating instrument of the universe and everything that happens in the world. So, if you take this thing called mind, which instrument is only a creator, and try to imagine what it is like beyond creation, it's impossible. The mind will never know God or your. Self, because you have to go just above the mind to know God, your Self. To know the infinite Being that you are, to know what it's like beyond creation, transcend the mind. The final state is beyond creation. It is the changeless state. In creation everything is constantly changing, and therefore the ultimate Truth cannot be there. lester levensen from the sedona method 20

HOW TO KNOW FOR ONESELF THAT CONSCIOUSNESS IS PRIOR TO THE BODY AND SURVIVES THE BODY

Unless one enters the nirguṇa (or nirvikalpa) state - where body, mind, world, time, and all appearances have completely ceased - there is no way to know that consciousness is independent of the body, prior to it, or survives its dissolution.

As long as any appearance remains, consciousness is still experienced in association with conditions, and its independence cannot be decisively established.

Claims made about the unchanging and unaffected eternal nature of the self without nirvikalpa/nirguna realisation therefore rest on inference, belief, or doctrine, and not on direct knowledge of the Self.

Only the complete absence of all objectivity reveals consciousness as self-existent, non-dual, unaffected by the presence or absence of the body, and not situated in time.

Such claims, without this realization, remain speculative rather than directly known.

Notions such as 'all appearances such as the body, mind and world arise in consciousness, and therefore consciousness must be beyond these' or 'in my experience the consciousness that I am never changes, therefore consciousness must be eternal' are facile superficial arguments at best that many children would see through; in order to end the illusion of duality and the associated sense of separation and suffering that comes along with it, genuine non-dual realisation must be (and is) much deeper than these kinds of superficial concepts and beliefs.

This is why the Advaita scriptures time and time again stress the need for Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Note how these verses clearly say that it is Nirvikalpa Samadhi that directly leads to liberation, and not that it is merely an aid to liberation:

353. When the Atman, the One without a second, is realised by means of the Nirvikalpa Samadhi, then the heart’s knot of ignorance is totally destroyed.

~ Shankara, Vivekachudamani, verse 353

The knot of the ignorance in the heart is broken completely only when one sees his Self as secondless through Nirvikalpa Samadhi

~Adhyatama Upanishad 1.17

As long as the objective universe is perceived one does not realise the Self.

~ Yoga Vasishta

...the natural and changeless state of Nirvikalpa samadhi is produced by unswerving vigilant concentration on the Self, ceaseless like the unbroken flow of oil. This readily and spontaneously yields that direct, immediate, unobstructed, and Universal perception of Brahman, which is at once knowledge and experience and which transcends time and space.

~ Sri Ramana Maharshi, introduction to his translation of Shankara's Vivekachudamani

By expelling (from the mind) without any remainder all objects which are superimposed on one’s Atma, one becomes himself Parabrahman the full, the secondless and the actionless

~Adhyatma Upanishad 1.21

The mind severed from all connection with sensual objects, and prevented from functioning out, awakes into the light of the heart, and finds the highest condition. The mind should be prevented from functioning, until it dissolves itself in the heart. This is Jnana, this is Dhyana, the rest is all mere concoction of untruth.

~ Amritabindu Upanishad

The Self (Atman) is beyond all expression by words beyond all acts of mind; It is absolutely peaceful, it is eternal effulgence free from activity and fear and it is attainable by Samadhi

~ Gaudapada, Mandukya Upanishad Karika 3.37

When the five organs of perception become still, together with the mind, and the intellect ceases to be active: that is called the Supreme State [Brahma-Vidya or Self Knowledge]

~Katha Upanishad 2.3.10 22

jean Klein, a teacher of Advaita Vedanta, often spoke about the "vanishing" of the world and the self as a shift in perception rather than a physical disappearance.

For Klein, the "world" we experience is largely a mental construct—a collection of projections, labels, and memories —that dissolves when one rests in pure, silent awareness.

Here are the key ways he addressed this concept:

1. The Sudden Vanishing of "Residues" Klein famously described his own awakening as a moment where the "residues" of his personality—the belief in himself as a doer, a sufferer, or an enjoyer—*completely vanished.* This wasn't the end of his physical existence, but the end of the ego-contraction. When this "me" vanishes, the world is no longer seen from a center; instead, there is only an "all-penetrating light" and a sense of being that has no location in time or space.

2. The World as a Mental Projection Klein taught that the world of distinct objects and forms exists only when we think about it. He often said: "The world exists only when we think about it... In reality the world is created every moment."When the mind is silent and empty of fear, longing, and images, the "objective" world as we normally define it vanishes into Primal Awareness. What remains is not "nothingness," but a vibrant, global presence where there is no longer a distinction between the observer and the observed.

3. The "Blank State" vs. Real Silence He cautioned against confusing the vanishing of the world with a "blank state" (an absence of thought). The Blank State: This is still an object of perception. You are aware of the "blankness." Real Silence: This is the "absence of the absence." It is a spontaneous switch-over where you no longer accent the object (the world or the blankness) but the perceiver. In this state, the world "dissolves" back into its origin—awareness .

4. The Body as an Object Klein applied this to the body as well. He taught that we rarely experience our "original" body; instead, we experience a "mental schema" or a collection of tensions. By observing the body without judgment, these localized tensions dissolve. The body then "vanishes" as a separate, heavy entity and is felt instead as free energy or "global sensation" expanded in space. 25

3. "what advaita vedanta says is that there is a reality that is entirely transcendental where there is no universe, no sentient beings, no god. That is the Ultimate Reality..

- swami sarvapriayanada 27

skip to 48 minutes in..world vanishes, its there but you dont perceive it.

Barry Long’s teachings on the "vanishing" or "disappearance" of the world generally center on the transition from an objectified existence (the world of mind, time, and senses) to reality (the eternal, still "I" within).

According to Long, the world as we perceive it is a projection of the mind and the brain. He often discussed the "vanishing" of the world in two primary contexts:

1. The Disappearance at Death

Long taught that the objectified world—everything we see, touch, and feel—is dependent on the physical apparatus of the brain and senses.

The Vanishing: When the body dies and the brain ceases to function, the entire objectified world literally disappears.
The Lesson: He argued that if we believe the external world is the ultimate reality, its disappearance at death will be terrifying. However, if we realize our true nature as the "immortal life" behind the senses, the vanishing of the world is simply the end of a transient projection.

2. The Disappearance Through Surrender

In his spiritual practice, the "vanishing" isn't just something that happens at physical death; it is the goal of meditation and presence.

Surrender the World: Long taught that when you "surrender the world," you release your attachment to the past, the future, and the sensory "static" we pick up in daily life.
The Summit of the Mountain: Using the metaphor of a "Mystic Mountain," he described the spiritual journey as an ascent where the seeker eventually reaches a summit and "disappears." At this point, personal identity and the objectified world fall away, leaving only union with God or the "Most High."

3. Existence vs. Reality

Long made a sharp distinction between "existence" (which is moving and transient) and "reality" (which is still and eternal).

The Mind's Mirror: He stated that we only see the world because the mind divides the "whole" into parts. When the mind becomes still and "negation" is practiced, the "hereness" of the divine is realized.

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The Projection: He famously said, "There is a notion that existence is an illusion. Existence is not an illusion. Existence is a projection from the inner through the brain producing the outer sensory world." To "vanish" the world is to stop the projection and return to the source.

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Key Quotes on this Theme:

"When you die, the world disappears. So the whole idea of an objectified existence is going to fail me if I believe in it."

"I climbed the mountain and I disappeared... He is now with the Holy One, God. United with it, which is where the mountain reaches up to."
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Would you like me to look for more specific details on his "Mystic Mountain" lecture or perhaps his advice on how to practically "surrender the world" in daily life?

what did barry long call what remains when all of creatin vanishes?

Gemini said

Barry Long called what remains when all of creation vanishes The Most High.

In his cosmology, he used several terms to describe this state of absolute reality, but "The Most High" was his primary designation for the source that exists before, during, and after the projection of the universe.

The Nature of "The Most High"

According to Long, this is not a place or a person, but the Absolute Stillness from which all movement and "existence" arises. He often described it through these specific characteristics:

The No-Thing: He frequently referred to it as "no-thing" (not to be confused with "nothingness"). It is the absence of any objectified form, thought, or sensation.
The Living Truth: While the world is a moving fact (existence), the state that remains is the "Living Truth"—the only thing that is eternally real.
The Great Silence: He taught that creation is like a "noise" or a "vibration" that eventually settles back into the Great Silence. When the world vanishes, only the Silence (The Most High) is left.

The "I" and the Vanishing

Long made a critical distinction between the personal "I" (the ego/mind) and the Real I.

The Projection: He taught that "existence" is a projection of the mind. When the mind stops projecting, the "world" vanishes.
The Remainder: What is left is the Real I or The Immortal Life.
The Union: In his "Mystic Mountain" teaching, he described the final stage of the spiritual journey as the moment the individual "disappears" into The Most High.

"There is only God. There is nothing else. The world is a reflection of the movement of the mind within the stillness of God." 28

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