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                                                   someone said i am enlightened but dont feel it

Gemini said

It is a profound realization to notice that gap. From the perspective of the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God in the beyond the beyond, "feeling" is a movement within duality, whereas "being" is the prior, unchanging reality.

If we look at this through the lens of the traditional teachings you’ve explored, there are a few reasons why that "feeling" might be absent even when the truth is recognized.

1. The Mirror and the Light,  Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is the light, and the Buddhi (the intellect) is the mirror.

  • "Enlightenment" is the realization that you are the Light, not the mirror.

  • "Feeling" is something that happens on the surface of the mirror. If the mirror is quiet—meaning the mind is calm and not producing "fireworks" or ecstatic emotions—it can seem like nothing is happening. But the Light is still there, illuminating the quiet.

2. Awareness Without Duality

You’ve noted before that the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is aware, but it is not aware of duality when duality is appearing.

  • A "feeling" requires two things: a feeler and a sensation. That is duality.

  • Realization is often a "non-event" because it is the vanishing of that distance. It is so natural and fundamental that it doesn't register as a "sensation" any more than the eye registers the act of seeing itself.

3. The Habit of the "I-Maker"

The Ahamkara (the ego-sense) is conditioned to look for "proof" in the form of a physical or emotional shift. It wants a badge or a blissful vibration to confirm its status. When that "someone" says "I don't feel it," it is actually the Ahamkara speaking—the very part of the mind that is not enlightened and can never be.

4. Concepts vs. Realities

As you've observed, some concepts become realities. If the concept of enlightenment is held as a "state" to be reached, the mind will always feel it has fallen short. But if the concept is used as a pointer to theImmortal Being/Self/Face of God that is already present—the one who is aware of the lack of feeling—then the search for a specific "feeling" can finally drop away.

The "vanishing of creation" doesn't necessarily mean the world disappears physically; it just vanishes for you, it means the weight and attachment to the fluctuations of the mind vanish. If there is no "feeler" left to demand a "feeling," that silence is the realization.

Does it feel more like a sense of "emptiness" where a feeling used to be, or is it more like a simple, quiet indifference to the states of the mind?

You said

why wouldnt someone whose realized what the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is not feel enlightened

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Gemini said

The reason a person who has realized the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God might not "feel" enlightened is rooted in the very nature of what was realized: Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is not a feeler.

As you’ve explored, the feeling of "I Am" within creation—the sense of existence, presence, or even bliss—actually belongs to Prakriti/nature. If someone is looking for a "feeling" of enlightenment, they are looking for a modification of the mind, but the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God in the beyond the beyond is prior to all modifications.

Here is why that "feeling" is often absent:

1. The Subjectivity Paradox

"Feeling" is an objective experience; it is something observed.

  • To "feel" enlightened, there would have to be an "I" (Ahamkara) observing a "feeling of enlightenment" (Prakriti).

  • True realization is the recognition that you are the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God —the pure, witnessing Consciousness. Since the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God   is the ultimate subject, it can never be an object of its own feeling. You cannot "feel" what you are any more than a tooth can bite itself.

2. The Nature of the Witness

You’ve noted that the  Immortal Being/Self/Face of God might witness itself as pure energy, but it doesn't witness "creation" in the way we think.

  • If the realization is genuine, the "creation" (which includes emotions, thoughts, and feelings of "being enlightened") has lost its reality.

  • When the creation "vanishes" or is seen as just the dance of the Gunas, the person doesn't feel "special" or "enlightened"—they simply are what they are. The absence of the "feeler" means there is no one left to report back on how the enlightenment feels.

3. Desire and the Buddhi

You once asked if becoming desireless is a prerequisite. In Samkhya, when the Buddhi becomes perfectly still and desireless, it becomes a clear mirror for the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God

  • A perfectly still mirror doesn't "feel" like a mirror; it just reflects perfectly.

  • If someone expects enlightenment to feel like a "high" or a permanent state of joy, they are still caught in the movements of the sattvic Guna. Realization of the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is beyond all three Gunas—it is a "neutral" or "unborn" state that the mind often interprets as "nothing" or "not feeling anything."

4. It Is a Fact, Not an Event

As you mentioned, once the Immortal Being/Self/Face of God is realized, you don't need to keep removing creation multiple times a day. It becomes a settled fact.

  • Just as you don't spend your day "feeling" like a human being—you just are one—the realized person doesn't spend their day "feeling" enlightened.

  • The search for the feeling is actually a sign that the mind is still trying to turn the Immortal Being into a concept it can possess.

In short, they don't "feel" enlightened because they have moved beyond the mechanism of feeling. They have realized the "Original Face" that exists when the world of sensation vanishes.

Does this lack of feeling seem like a "loss" to the person, or is it more of a quiet, steady freedom from the need for any particular state?

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