the Self that the saints and sages talk about is You

the *Me* that you Really are is deathless, birthless, eternal, and the real Substance in every individual. (the same description as essential I, Atman, Self and God etc etc..).when *realized* you'll see that it is your Original Face..this *real Me* that you really are doesnt suffer. suffering is one form of ignorance that gets *attached* to the body/mind complex. (pleasure is another form of ignorance) now..you can believe beings like ramana maharshi and sri atmananda, meher baba and baba hari dass, nisargadatta and robert adams...swami sivanananda, and the list goes on and on..who all talk about the reality of a True Me using a different word such as Self or God or Supreme Being etc etc..or not....(just so you know the idea that this Self/God can also be called Me isnt my original idea. i got it from reading a guru named aziz kristoff...and it made perfect sense...(aziz seems to have made some mistakes with some of his disciples and has fallen off the scene). (i posted this to another group and thought i will share here) be happy!